I feel it is necessary to address this topic, again…. (For the reference, I’ll use the term “Christian” loosely, I mean anyone who believes in God. The Higher Power and believes in the story of Jesus Christ. Christianity is broad).
As a pregnant woman, a mother and a wife, I seek out online web forums where I can associate with other Moms with which I might have something in common. It is shocking to me how much hatred our children are being raised into, how much deep-seeded intolerance is fueling the lives of these young kids “Jesus Camp” anyone?
That is insanity.
The original poster in question actually says:
“We all were born into sin….. the choice is do we stay that way….anyhow…you get my point[…]”
How in the world did we get to a society where what others do matters so much to our ‘salvation’. I feel like Christian Extremists or Evangelists etc. have taken this crap way too far. Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone? Right? I am thoroughly secure in my stance as an agnostic wife, mother, and woman. I believe deeply that creation is so beyond human comprehension that it is impossible for us to know what our true meaning of life is and who our true creator is.
It’s impossible for me, as a tolerant person, to understand the conservative christian stance – the ones who stand out on street corners with signs that say “Gay is an Abomination”.. or “GAYS CAN’T GET INTO HEAVEN!” or bullshit like that. I try to look at everything…from a ‘tolerant’ perspective and leave judgment out of it, but hatred is something we as a society should never ignore… hatred killed millions of Jews… Darfur anyone? You get the point. Hatred breeds a darkness within humanity and it is frightening to me that some of these women are indoctrinating their children with an intolerant hateful mindset.
Another poster retalliated to the above comment made by the original poster which I felt was just.
“So is choosing to be a hateful intolerant UN-christian person a sin worthy of eternal hell and damnation too?”
I enjoyed this comment the most, probably out of all the posters. Because it really put it all into perspective.
The original poster replies with:
Is that really what the bible says? Because I’ve done a little religious exploration of the bible and some of it’s meanings and I can tell you there is a definite place in the bible where it says that the bible is subjective, it is supposed to evolve with us. There is no evolution to this work. What do people think the New Testament is? Do they think God and Jesus came back, had a little conference and re-wrote the Old Testament then disappeared back into the heavens when they were done? Of course not! The Bible is a man-made piece of work, it is subjective. It’s a series of fictional stories designed to help human kind understand the concept of something super natural that words could other wise NOT describe. That isn’t an opinion, it’s fact. Disagree with me if you will…
If the bible didn’t evolve – we should still be stoning and killing our unruly children when they get out of line. Yeah it was done. Yeah it’s in there. Should we still be putting women behind men and making them the weaker gender? Throw equality right out the door! Should we beat to death the women who attempt to preach the word of “God” in public forum? because they aren’t allowed to preach the word of God because they are the “Weaker Vessel”? ( 1 Corinthians 14:34 The women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says.) Should we damn the women to hell who have children out of wedlock? Should we shun the women from our communities who initiate a divorce from their husband for whatever reason?
Yeah, it states pretty much (in its old world text) all of those things…
How is it that they are able to pick and choose from the bible what they want to believe?
I am so glad I can sleep easy at night knowing my child will grow up to be a tolerant, loving human being who doesn’t make people feel poorly for their decisions to lead their own life and not make people feel uncomfortable with their unwarranted blabber about converting… *cough* Saving…everyone else.
“Judge not, lest ye be judged. And it is my duty as a Christian to tell YOU that.” – bcHost (Tracy)
You know how much more calm this world would be if all Christian’s were like this? And raised their kids like this? To be tolerant, and not hateful..
Wait, hold on….
If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.
(pppsssttt… Hey lesbians, it doesn’t say anything about girls ‘lieing’ with girls!) Better get all the Gays together and burn them in an incinery. Just like the jews. Right? Does the above verse sound like any God you’ve ever heard of? I thought Christian’s believed their God was a loving God and a tolerant God and a peaceful God….putting people to death doesn’t sound like a very loving God to me.
THEN the bible contradicts itself.
1 Corinthians 14:33 For God is not a God of confusion but of peace. As in all the churches of the saints,
Wait!? THIS SAME GOD who wanted gays to be put to death…by law?! Doesn’t sound very peaceful if you ask me.
Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned, forgive, and ye shall be forgiven.-Luke 6:37
I think I like this part the best. I think it embodies truly what Christianity should be.